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avatar: Eickemeier
Eickemeier
2 posts
Replied to Eickemeier's post on April 12th, 2012

The Wyse Winterm 3630 is no longer available, is there anything that can replace it?

 

Thanks,

avatar: LabWrenchEditor
LabWrenchEditor
2201 posts
Replied to Eickemeier's post on April 18th, 2012

Hi Eickmeier,

I'm looking for some more details. Are you looking to link something similar to the Wyse Winterm 3630LE to your Beckman Coulter LS 6500?

Thank You,
Kylie

avatar: Eickemeier
Eickemeier
2 posts
Replied to LabWrenchEditor's post on April 18th, 2012

Yes, I need a direct replacement.

Thank you ,

Michael

avatar: LabWrenchEditor
LabWrenchEditor
2201 posts
Replied to Eickemeier's post on April 18th, 2012

Hi Michael,

I have learned that the suggested replacement for the Wyse Winterm 3630, is the Wyse C30LE.

http://www.wyse.com/products/cloud-clients/thin-clients/C30LE

If you have any questions regarding this product, please contact Brian Lamont from Wyse at BLamont@wyse.com. He will be more than happy to assist you and point you in the right direction.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have further questions.

Best Regards,
Kylie

avatar: Craig1
Craig1
74 posts
Replied to Eickemeier's post on April 27th, 2012

Quote Eickemeier

The Wyse Winterm 3630 is no longer available, is there anything that can replace it?

 

Thanks,

The Wyse terminals used on the LS Counters have customer firmware installed to work. An off the shelf Wyse terminal will NOT work without being flashed with the correct firmware. Beckman sells an update kit for approx $3,400. 

I may be able to help you out for much less. Email me or post your email address.

avatar: gmacg
gmacg
1 posts
Replied to Craig1's post on November 19th, 2012

Dear Craig,

I'm in the same situation as the person above.  Do you have a file and protocol for flashing a WYSE thin client winterm ?

Thanks.

avatar: Craig1
Craig1
74 posts
Replied to gmacg's post on November 26th, 2012

No, I don't. 

avatar: Kwame
Kwame
1 posts
Replied to Craig1's post on August 30th, 2013

The Wyse Thin Client (attached to LS 6500) no longer works. Trying to get a replacement but not sucessful. 

Would be glad if anyone can be of help in this direction.

avatar: dpkleessr
dpkleessr
1036 posts
Replied to Eickemeier's post on August 30th, 2013

Are you talking about a CRT assembly that no longer functions or is it an LCD panel with the communication electronics installed inside the base of it? The final configuration for the LS6500 was a WYSE thin client connected to an LCD flat panel display. Yes, the entire kit to replace the older terminals was very expensive but all you really need is a 25 to 9 pin serial cable and the thin client module. You can then connect ANY flat panel VGA display to the thin client. You also need to be aware that the clock is running on Beckman's support for LS counters and the availability of kits to replace the old displays were becoming problematic when I retired last November. Beckman is still the most likely place to get the latest and last update to the LS counter display system.

As has been previously noted, you CANNOT buy an off the shelf module and use it as there is EEPROM programming that is proprietary for Beckman Coulter that provides the correct display screens. Even if someone had the correct protocol to flash the memory, they would be in violation of some federal laws because you do not have the license to do so.

avatar: Knoppers
Knoppers
1 posts
Replied to dpkleessr's post on August 1st, 2014

Dear dpkleessr,

hope you’re still around here. We’re running a LS 6500 in our lab. Unfortunately our Wyse WY160 ES terminal (Part. No. 900985-06) crashed some days ago (giving us a constant beeping sound without any visuals). We found an identical replacement for that Terminal - but without the needed firmware on it. Can we remove the EEPROM module containing the firmware from the old terminal and mount it into the replacement terminal? What we tried so far is switching the EPROM labeled “M27C1001 – type FDIP32W” in between the Wyse boards without any satisfying results.

Thanks.

 

avatar: dpkleessr
dpkleessr
1036 posts
Replied to Knoppers post on August 1st, 2014

You are definitely in uncharted territory on this one.  I would say that you can try anything you want because I just don't know.  We never had any reason to take one apart as we just updated that terminal to the new thin client that supported any kind of VGA based display and eventually any DVI display.  Beckman got away from the Wyse terminals because of high failure rates and the inability of our after market repair depot to make long lasting repairs.  If you check the previous posts about this, there is a link that Kylie posted for someone that actually works at Wyse.  That would be my best suggestion relative to your issue.

Don

avatar: LabGuru
LabGuru
15 posts
Replied to dpkleessr's post on March 3rd, 2015

We have a solution for replacing failed Wyse CRT monitors on LS6500s with a Wyse Winterm module to which any LCD monitor can be connected. Our Wyse modules are compatible with all LS6500 counters and with LS6000 having serial number 7064xxxx or higher. 

If you happen to have an LS6000 with a serial number lower than 7064xxxx, we can provide a pre-configured Wyse 160 or Wyse 370 CRT terminal (with hot graph correction). Hope this helps. 

Best, Raj (email: rajesh@gmi-inc.com)

PS: I would like to specially thank the "walking screwdriver", Don Klees, for his consistent, expert and excellent inputs to all problems related to Beckman LS, centrifuges, ultras and spectros.

avatar: LabGuru
LabGuru
15 posts
Replied to Eickemeier's post on March 3rd, 2015
We have a solution for replacing failed Wyse CRT monitors on LS6500s with a Wyse Winterm module to which any LCD monitor can be connected. Our Wyse modules are compatible with all LS6500 counters and with LS6000 having serial number 7064xxxx or higher.    If you happen to have an LS6000 with a serial number lower than 7064xxxx, we can provide a pre-configured Wyse 160 or Wyse 370 CRT terminal (with hot graph correction). Hope this helps.    Best, Raj (email: rajesh@gmi-inc.com)   PS: I would like to specially thank the "walking screwdriver", Don Klees, for his consistent, expert and excellent inputs to all problems related to Beckman LS, centrifuges, ultras and spectros.
avatar: dpkleessr
dpkleessr
1036 posts
Replied to LabGuru's post on March 3rd, 2015

That is fantastic news for Beckman LS counter owners and I'm sure that your pricing will be much more reasonable than Beckman's.  The lack of reasonably priced terminals was a major selling point by Perkin Elmer for people with Beckman LS counters to buy their LS counters.    What's really amazing is that you have a solution for the original LS6000's.  Starting with serial #7064 is when Beckman went with the last version of the main board electronics and that is when the compatibility issue came up with the monitors.  The original monitors used a pass thru the terminal to get data to the printer.  The later electronics had a separate printer port.  All of the Wyse terminals had inherent component failure issues and if you guys have been able to overcome this then that is even better.

One note about the Wyse thin client, if it ever locks up with a flashing cursor, attach a PS2 connector keyboard and hit F1 to clear the error.  If you do this, the error should not come back.  The original thin clients also had really crappy soldering and Beckman had to go from drop ship of them to running them thru additional testing to make sure they would work.  We used to order them in multiples just to get one of them to work.  Don

 

 

 

 

 

 

avatar: LabGuru
LabGuru
15 posts
Replied to dpkleessr's post on March 3rd, 2015

Thank you for your quick response Don. Yes, we have priced our LS6500 ready Winterm module, power adapter and cable at $1200, which you will agree is reasonable priced when compared  to Beckman’s asking price for the upgrade kit.

Another exciting announcement that I would like to share with you is that we have entered into an exclusive distributorship agreement with Hitachi Aloka Medical, Ltd. to market, sell, install and support their latest state-of-the-art LSC-8000 liquid scintillation counters in the United States. We will continue to support Beckman LS6000 series counters in the field and prepared to replace them with the new Hitachi-Aloka LSC-8000 for a very attractive price whenever our customers are ready to “trade-in-trade-up” and replace them.  

You can find more information about the new Hitachi-Aloka LSC-8000 at http://www.gmi-inc.com/hitachi-accuflex-lsc-8000-scintillation-counter.html

Best, Raj  

email: rajesh@gmi-inc.com

avatar: b2232
b2232
1 posts
Replied to Craig1's post on February 4th, 2019

Hello! Looking to add network or file saving of data from the Beckman Coulter LS 6500; I have the WYSE thin client VXO. I'd love to hear about any alternatives or suggestions.

Thanks!

avatar: dpkleessr
dpkleessr
1036 posts
Replied to Eickemeier's post on February 4th, 2019

As of when I retired back in 2012, what you're asking to do was not possible. The thin client has custom firmware installed which did not allow for any customization. Also, a printer is always required to be connected and online for proper operation of the LS counter.

Don